Children, The Internet, Shame and Tantrums

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Catherine Rodie-Blagg recently wrote about a book titled “Reasons My Kid Is Crying” and how her opinion of that book was changed after taking a photo of her own daughter mid-tantrum. The post was definitely pause for thought for many, and kicked off a whole different train of thought in me.

I’m not a parent. I don’t have a small child in my life dictating things like how often I can leave the house or how long it takes me to do so (as so brilliantly pointed out by one of my favourite comedians, Michael McIntyre). So I can’t speak to what it must be like to have someone doing hilarious things all the time and no one being there to see it. I can’t understand how hard it would be not to share those things with the world. But from my non-child-having perspective, I do think this:

I am not comfortable with how much of children’s lives is online. Especially very small children who have no say in the matter. I enjoy the stories, and I can imagine myself sharing them, but I’m not comfortable about it. And the reason is simple: what we put on the internet is there forever. It never goes away. What we say about our children, especially when we say their names, is there for the rest of their lives. They have a digital footprint before they can even walk.

We lecture our children about the importance of protecting them online. But are we the ones who are leaking their secrets before they even know enough to object?

I’ve always been pretty careful about what I say about stepdaughter online. And photos of her have only been posted with her permission, now that she’s old enough to give it understanding what it means. This is partly because she is not my child, but mostly because when she grows up I don’t want her to be able to look back on things I have written and know they’re about her. I don’t want her digital footprint to be well and truly marked even before she has had a chance to leave her own mark on the world.

I remember getting on a bus one day. A girl who went to my primary school, 4 years above me, was on the bus. She said hello, I sat near her and she proceeded to introduce me to the person she was with.

“This is Tamsin. We went to primary school together. She was a right little shit.” She looks at me “Sorry, you were.”

I was mortified. Sure, we’re adults now, we can all look back and have a laugh at past behaviour. Only I couldn’t, the second my past behaviour was mentioned I regressed back to being a 6 year old, frustrated that the world was picking on me and I couldn’t understand why.

And that’s the thing. We can’t know now what is going to embarrass or trigger our children as they grow up. Stepdaughter is still humiliated the Viking centred his wedding speech around her. Even though it was a lovely story. He didn’t predict that reaction at all, none of us did, and so it is with children.

How much of our children’s lives is it OK to share online? What of their secrets, their potty training habits, their hilarious out-of-proportion tantrums is that one thing someone will be able to make them feel inferior for years down the track? What is going to be that one story too far? And is it even possible to have children without wanting to share the really funny things they do?

What do you think?

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  • Monique Fischle

    I don’t have children either but when I do, I won’t be blogging about them. If I have a funny story to tell about them, I’ll wait till I catch up with friends and family or call/text them. While I do love reading stories about some of the funny things kids do, I often think about their lack of consent. Photos are tricky and while I know I will share a few, I really don’t want to plaster my profiles with photos of them.

    • https://kikiandtea.com/ Tamsin Howse

      I’m really wary of saying what I will and won’t do with my kids. I like the idea of not sharing anything about them online, but I’m not sure how I can blog and not. I feel like I’d have to quit all social media in order to resist it!!

      • Monique Fischle

        Oh of course. I say all this now but I know how different things could be when I do actually have children. Obviously if I’m still blogging, things about my children would pop up, but I would be very careful, at least I would intend to be. It’s difficult to know what I actually will do until the time comes.

  • http://johnanthonyjames.com/ John James

    Everything is so magnified when you’re a kid… something that seems like a small joke to an adult can seem like something HUGE to a child… I still remember hating some of the things my family would tell their friends – or worse still, complete strangers – about me and right in front of me… there seemed to be no sense of privacy when it came to talking about me… I hated it!

    Why do adults do this to their kids? How is it that so many parents forget what it feels like to be a kid, to be vulnerable and powerless…

    I mean, even with adults I’m careful what I talk about – I very rarely talk about my partner R online, because I know she doesn’t like it…

    • https://kikiandtea.com/ Tamsin Howse

      I remember hating EXACTLY the same thing. Felt like screaming “I’m right here!!”

  • Laws for Clouds

    I think it’s okay to share a little about your children, although I mostly limit myself to photos and funny things they said as toddlers. Once they were at school I pulled right back, although I still put up photos as I live far away from family.

    I do use my twitter account to network with other parents of kids with the same disorder as one of my kids, so I keep it anonymous to protect him. The diagnosis is common, but there is a stigma and he gets to choose when and if he reveals it to others. Now I know the internet is not really anonymous ever, so I still keep it fairly vague.

    I monitor it this way – when I am old and my kids are changing MY nappies and in total control of me, would I be happy for *x* to be shared online? Because it’s totally possible!

    As an aside, while you’ve never shared anything I’d raise an eyebrow at about your stepdaughter, I personally don’t believe a child can consent. In the same way i protect their diet/education/medical care, I get to call the shots on their online presence.

    • https://kikiandtea.com/ Tamsin Howse

      I hear what you’re saying, but as she’s 13 now I think that’s old enough to consent to a photo of her & I sitting in a cafe, or standing at the Zoo. I don’t even consider anything that would potentially be embarrassing or worrying. I just always ask her consent before I post any photos of her on any social media, even though I’ve never disclosed her name and the photos are harmless ones.

      • https://kikiandtea.com/ Tamsin Howse

        I also ask her father :)

  • http://www.lifeandothercrises.blogspot.com Kerri Sackville

    This is an issue I have thought a great deal about over the past 4.5 years.
    I never share pics of my kids’ online. I feel very strongly that I need/wish to protect their privacy. They do not need an online profile just because their mother has one.
    I don’t see any problem with sharing the kinds of anecdotes that are common to practically every child – toilet training, tantrums, food issues etc. But even in my book, I kept them vague. You didn’t (and never do) get a true sense of my kids’ individual personalities. They are more caricatures of themselves. I now share funny things they say, but only with their permission, and only things that do not have the potential to embarrass or shame them.
    I would never, ever share my kids’ real challenges and difficulties. That is their business and theirs alone. I think writing too much about one’s children can create a persona that they are stuck with as they grow older, and I think it is incredibly important for kids to have the space to find themselves.

    • http://johnanthonyjames.com/ John James

      It’s interesting how you explain that you write caricatures of your children, because that’s kind of how I think of your own online personality as well… I always think of your books and blogs and tweets (mostly) as being like cartoon-versions of “Kerri”, not exactly the same as you the person… occasional I know you write as “yourself”, but I would never expect you to be exactly the same as the person you portray in your writing…

      Kind of like my “Cativerse” posts – “JJ” in those posts is a cartoon version of myself, not the actual me… I, of course, always ask my cats permission to post about their lives… and they mostly agree… 😉

  • Gary

    I agree with your position Tamsin. I have three daughters. Two of them are very good athletes. I’ll tweet with a #ProudDad hash tag and I’ll refer to them as Miss13 etc. That’s about it though.

  • Melissa Savage

    Sorry I’m late commenting; it took a while for a response to come to me. I don’t have kids so I’m not going to be able to talk specifics, but what I will say is that the internet has been important for a lot of mothers in particular in giving them a platform where they can talk about the truth of parenting, the great bits and the gross, awkward and unpleasant bits. In doing so they are finally giving voice to the hard work involved, and I think that it is important in helping our culture shift to one where the hard work of parenting is valued. I think the ‘reasons my son is crying’ tumblr struck a chord with a lot of frustrated parents of toddlers because it spoke to a very true experience.

    However, I too share your concerns about consent. The first generation of kids to be blogged and facebooked and instagrammed are still mostly under 10, so we really don’t know how this will play out long term. I have noticed though, that once they hit school age, the amount of photos and stories being shared drops off as, presumably, the kid realises what is going on and therefore forces discussions around consent. Hopefully this means people think about it more.

    I can’t say what I would do personally, but I’m really grateful that my cousins share pictures of their kids on Facebook and instagram, because it means I see a lot more of those kids than I would otherwise and can keep up with their development a little. I’ve never seen a photo I would consider inappropriate either, just the usual stuff of kids playing and family happy snaps. Maybe that’s a good rule of thumb – if you wouldn’t put it up on your desk at work, it shouldn’t go on Facebook.